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Published on May 5, 2008 By SplitPeaSoup In Just Hanging Out

Recently, there has been a surge of activity regarding respecting JU member's privacy. I think the reason this problem exists is that members of this community think that it is safe to give out personal information here. Don't believe that for one second.

I have found an admitted case of an internet stalker. As you read this, keep in mind that even villians believe themselves to be heros. Would you want someone on the internet interfereing with your life?

Using real life information to harass or go after users beyond the walls of this site.


I gotta take issue with this one, I really do. First of all, what happens outside of JU should not be of concern to JU. Some of us know each other in real life, others have voluntarily given up information about themselves (like mailing addresses, where they work, etc.) to people they later had fallings out with.

On three (and only three) occasions I have considered taking action outside of JU due to things I learned about people *in* JU.

1) A good friend was so depressed I feared she was considering suicide. I ended up contacting no outside authority, but I did let her know that I was considering it for the sake of her young children...and for her own safety because I love her very much. Thank God it never became necessary, but I would have done so if the situation continued and she understands why.

2) A certain teacher we all know was falling apart at the seams, having mental breakdowns right here on these forums for all to see. I was able to determine (from information she freely supplied for all to see) what school district she worked for, and I was tempted to forward some of her more bizarre blog entries to her employer. I truly feared for the safety and well being of the children in her charge. Again, I let her know of my intentions and gave her a chance to seek help on her own, which she did. I never did contact her employer, but if I had continued to witness this deterioration much longer, I certainly would have.

3) The only time I EVER interfered in someone's 'real life' was earlier this year when it became apparant that a certain fat and stinking fish was certainly neglecting his large family (at best) and quite possibly subjecting them to abuse, squalor, medical neglect, an inadequate diet, little education, and a total absence of normal hygienic practices involving soap and water. When provided with what *I* felt to be adequate evidence, I did make a few phone calls to Child Protective Services. My conscience required it, TOU be damned.

The fish, of course, cried 'harrassment' and 'stalking' even though he himself provided me with his new address...KNOWING that I would make this call. (He knew because I told him I would. He still gave me the address.)

What I do after I hit that little red x in the corner, (closing JU) is my business. Just as you admins seem to feel this fish has the right to his 'privacy'...do those of us concerned about certain situations not have the same right?

 

"little-whip" is an internet stalker. He is why you do not give out personal information on the internet. And he is not the only one.

 

[edit: little-whip did not take information involuntarily, and "she" was perfectly within her boundries. However, that does not change the point. Do not give your information away, purposefully or accidentally.]

 


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on May 05, 2008
He is why you do not give out personal information on the internet. And he is not the only one.


"He"?

Didn't put a lot of research into that, did you?



on May 05, 2008
"He"?

Didn't put a lot of research into that, did you?


I am not an internet stalker...
on May 05, 2008
I am not an internet stalker...


Nah, just another troll gumming up the works . . .
on May 05, 2008
I am not an internet stalker...


Two swings, two misses. You're out on the next swing.
on May 05, 2008
I think most people have moved past the paranoia and anonymity thing.

Post what you want, just know that it's accessible to literally anyone, anywhere. Even a small amount of personal information is enough that a really dedicated person could track you down.

I'm no more scared of the internet than I am of the weird people I see at the store or a restaurant. The weird guy who gave you the crazy eye at the buffet place could follow you home, too, or find out where you work and call your boss. Life's like that. Risky.

Interesting theory on LW, but unfortunately you're not stalker enough to identify whether or not she is a stalker.
on May 06, 2008
Oh lord, is this what our society is turning into? Are we really so hard on needing privacy and are paranoid of people that we would rather not try to help those we believe may be putting themselves in danger and others (including children) just because one would be seen as a stalker?

What a sad time this it. It hurts me to think that soon my children will have to confront this society we are allowing to be created. That even a look could get them killed, incarcerated (eventually), or believed to be gay or harassment. One can not even say hello to a woman these days without a lawyer present. The only difference between the lottery and an accident is the dollar you pay for the ticket. Lawsuits are as common as scrambled eggs.

Once again real criminals get a pass while everyday people that do everyday things that have been done for centuries are now seen as the criminals. Maybe terrorist are right about us.

I am not an internet stalker...


LOL, so I guess cops, detectives, scientist, doctors, etc, are all stalkers. Truly this site has become a magnet for the loony. This is gonna be fun.
on May 06, 2008
It's not stalking when you give someone information about yourself.

No one forced any of the people in the article above to give LW information. They chose to do it.

If fear is your thing, than by all means fear...but I would place it somewhere its actually productive...like keeping your kids away from the street when they play if you can't watch them every single second.

Or, not giving your SS# to someone who calls your house...things like that. Worrying about someone on JU is unnecessary unless of course you are hiding something and don't wish to be caught.

Then you take your chances when you reveal anything personal on line.

on May 06, 2008

I think most people have moved past the paranoia and anonymity thing.


My telephone number is on my homepage. I believe my street address is on the homepage somewhere too.

I have pictures of myself and of my house on my homepage. There is also a short bio and description (in English) and my favourite joke (in Hebrew).

I'm me. I am me when I interact in real life and when I interact on the Internet.

I find that completely normal. It's the right way. It's traditional. It's polite.


I think the reason this problem exists is that members of this community think that it is safe to give out personal information here.


Of course it's safe. Texas Wahine is right. The danger, if there is much, comes from people physically close to you who might follow you home. People on the Internet who know where I live would not fly to Dublin to "get me".


SlyDrivel,

My name is Andrew Brehm. I live in Dublin, Ireland. I am a software developer. But I believe you have the advantage of me here. Who are you and what do you do?

Regards,
Andrew

on May 06, 2008
Looks like I've been libeled too. (winks @ Ock and Mari.)

And fyi, I'm a she, not a he. Moron.


Looks like I'm the only one here who has been libeled. I am not a moron.

I have not libeled you. Say I told the community that you give money to terrorist organizations because you support their radical ideology. Sure, this is a huge insult. But if it is also true, it is not libel.
on May 06, 2008
My name is Andrew Brehm. I live in Dublin, Ireland. I am a software developer. But I believe you have the advantage of me here. Who are you and what do you do?


I live in Kentucky. I am a scientist. I own my own lab, and I work on functional genomics, a field very much related to bioinformatics, the aspect of genomics that Asaxy studies. But I believe neither one of us has an advantage over the other. I could not find out where you live or work from just that information.

on May 06, 2008
Andrew Brehm, Dublin, Ireland


I could not find out where you live or work from just that information.


Did you try googling for "Andrew Brehm"?

I am not the LA lawyer. But the second link tells you everything you need to know. I am also in the book.

on May 06, 2008
Nice picture Leauki...very handsome.

I like your homepage.
on May 06, 2008
Did you try googling for "Andrew Brehm"?

I am not the LA lawyer. But the second link tells you everything you need to know. I am also in the book.


Sweet. If I ever have an opportunity to use your identity against you, I'll be sure to do it?

You read Richard Dawkins? I am suprised.
on May 07, 2008
Nice picture Leauki...very handsome.

I like your homepage.


Thank you!
on May 07, 2008
If I ever have an opportunity to use your identity against you, I'll be sure to do it?


Is it wise to say that just after accusing somebody else of being a stalker?



You read Richard Dawkins? I am suprised.


Why would you be surprised? I am one of those educated people you keep hearing about. I read Latin and German too. I thought I had demonstrated a certain level of general knowledge in the forums here in the past.



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